145 – We’re back (and we brought the Alchemy with us!)

After almost a year of wandering the world, we’re back! And honestly? We were teaching, traveling, deepening our own Alchemy practice — and somewhere in the middle of all of it, we realized: we really missed you! We missed these conversations and the deeper dives, not to mention all the nerding out together!

So in this episode, we’re easing everyone back in to the Inspired Action world. We share where we’ve been, what shifted for us, and why Season 10 feels different. We also get into:

  • Why Daoist alchemy is not spiritual bypass — and why that distinction actually matters
  • The two most important questions in Stage 1 of the Nine Stages of Alchemy
  • What it means to become a Zhen Ren — a fully realized, authentically yourself human being
  • Why this Year of the Fire Horse is asking something specific of all of us
  • A teaser of what’s coming in Episode 146 (including a Daoist meditation on opening your doors)

If you’ve been listening since the beginning, welcome home! If you just found us — perfect timing. We’re so excited that you’re here.

Mentioned in this episode:

  • Episode 142: How to Navigate This Fast-Changing World Based on Your Elemental Nature
  • June 27 Workshop: From Seeker to Alchemist (Alchemy Lab Workshop Series) → alchemylearningcenter.com

Reach us:

If this episode lands with you, please leave a review — it truly helps other seekers find their way here.

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Welcome to Inspired Action Alchemy.

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This is where we have motivational,
inspiring conversations and interviews

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that we hope you’ll enjoy listening to.

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Join us and other inspired
alchemists-in-training on this

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alchemical transformational journey
Otherwise known as a podcast.

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Welcome to the Inspired
Action Alchemy podcast.

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This is pod 145.

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I’m Jay, and here with my
co-host, as always, Leta Herman.

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Hello, inspired alchemists.

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Hello, hello, everyone.

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We are so happy to have you here today.

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We know some of you have been listening
and sharing with us on the podcast

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since episode one, way back… Well, I
don’t know, when the dinosaurs walked-

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on the earth.

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Yeah, right.

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But if you’re brand new to this podcast,
maybe you searched for wisdom or alchemy

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or studying Taoist or studying Taoist
wisdom or just want to learn more

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about life from an alchemical pers-
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Yes.

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Or maybe you just searched for help.

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“I’m overwhelmed and out of balance,
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me about ancient Chinese wisdom so
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Okay, that’s very specific.

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But that’s okay, ’cause if you did that
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Welcome.

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Perfect timing.

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We hope that you find the balance
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know, the, the ease of the conversation
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to talk about in this podcast.

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So perfect time.

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You found us exactly in the right
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Whether you’ve been with us since
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today, we’re really glad you’re here.

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So settle in.

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I’m gonna grab a cuppa, so grab
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have a conversation, and let’s go.

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Great.

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Today is gonna be a little bit
of this, a little bit of that.

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Basically, a podcast about the
podcast to ease everyone back in.

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We’re gonna tell everyone where we’ve
been, what we’ve been working on.

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And, you know, I guess, Leta, the
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uh, past eight months have been what?

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Where have we been?

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Where have we been?

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You know, we get emails every day,
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the podcast. I love the podcast,”
which we love, but lately it’s been

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like, “Where’s the podcast? Where’s
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But we’re here.

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We really didn’t go anywhere,
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have been working on our alchemy.

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We’ve been working on, uh,
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But we’re here, and we
became wandering Taoists.

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Yes, and literally.

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I mean, literally the past
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For many months we’ve been teaching,
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world, and it’s been really great.

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And we’re back now in Massachusetts,
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The world headquarters of the Inspired
Action Alchemy podcast, our super

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busy Chinese medicine clinic, the
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headquarters of the Alchemy Learning
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It’s been amazing, and let’s just
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It’s been so much fun.

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It really has.

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You know, here’s the
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At some point, you know, you, you, you
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let go of some of your material needs
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just doing this podcast.

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We really missed it.

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We missed the deeper
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Even though we were having them,
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these conversations, ’cause now
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Yes, and so we’re back.

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Woo-hoo.

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And it’s season 10, and
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What?

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Us have a lot to say?

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I don’t know.

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I think we’re kinda quiet.

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I don’t think so.

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I’m just teasing.

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so many unexpected conversations
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as you all know when you travel,
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perspectives, and it gave us a lot to
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and the interviews that we’re planning.

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Things got deeper.

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Things got more exciting for us.

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And so we’re excited
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And we’re ready to move forward.

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Woo-hoo, so let’s move forward then.

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Before we get into today’s episode,
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event happening June 27th as part
of our Alchemy Lab workshop series.

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Jay and I are teaching a four-hour
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Alchemist, and honestly, we think
it’s going to be a lot of fun.

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We’re going to show you what
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it does for a person, and how to
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it can all come into focus.

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So if you’re looking for radical
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June 27th at alchemylearningcenter.com.

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And we’ve put a link for
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Before we move forward, let’s just make
sure for- Wait, you just said let’s go.

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I know, I know.

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So let’s

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go, but wait a minute.

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But wait.

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Let’s not quite go.

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Let’s not quite go because- Okay.

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Put it on hold, pause … I’m just
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brand new, what is the Inspired
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what are we actually doing here?

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Well, I can’t answer that last question.

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I don’t know what we’re doing here.

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But no, we’re having fun.

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We’re having conversations.

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We’re sharing.

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You know, we’re students of Daoism.

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We’re students of alchemy.

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We’re also teachers.

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We’re also practitioners.

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We just do a lot of different
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Yes, and we’re going to bring you a lot
of information about transformation, real

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transformation, not the bumper sticker
kind and not the spiritual bypass kind.

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That’s a really popular phrase
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lot lately, spiritual bypass,
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And we wanna be clear about
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Because, you know, it’s interesting.

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Some of you may have even been hurt by
the wellness culture or feel that way.

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You know, for years now, people have
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your feelings maybe, maybe you felt like
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just let it go, and the hard stuff never
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You know, or maybe you grew up in a
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was the explanation for everything,
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right with you, and we hear that.

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Daoist alchemy is not that.

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It doesn’t skip the hard parts.

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It goes straight into them, the
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patterns that keep running underneath
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We actually have a whole episode coming up
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a real conversation, not a footnote.

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So but for now, if you’re listening
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trauma in the past or you may have
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all the things we’re talking about.

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That’s, that’s good.

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Be skeptical.

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Stay skeptical.

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Be the mystic, we always say.

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Like, just keep asking questions,
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Yeah, because being a mystic means
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is that true transformation requires
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It also requires the things That
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That’s what we call ghosts and what
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we’re gonna go all through that.

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We’ve also talked about that
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And those hooks, you know,
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So if you’re overwhelmed, we’re not gonna
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We’re going to help you understand
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That’s where you need to begin with
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Who are you?

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How are you actually wired?

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What genuinely drains you?

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What restores you?

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And why is the approach that maybe
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know, just really helps them out, maybe
that’s the wrong approach for you.

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There’s another approach that
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Yeah, there’s just no one-size-fits-all
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the self-cultivation, um, that
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So we try to help everyone find their
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uh, thing that we hear or I hear…
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I’m overwhelmed.

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I’m burnt out.

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I can’t find balance.

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You know, I’ve done all the
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I don’t know who I am in my own life.

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I, I, I hear, I’ve heard all of these
from different people, and what people

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don’t realize, or maybe they realize
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is they’ve been going against their
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Not because they did something
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Because maybe no one ever showed them how
they were actually wired energetically.

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Yeah, that’s where the
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It’s not a personality test.

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It’s not astrological.

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It’s a framework for understanding
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is how you’re actually built.

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So the five elements explain how we all
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we feel, like, overwhelmed, like you said.

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Yes, and we did a whole
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Usually I ask you what pod number
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it’s one of our most popular ones.

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It wasn’t that long ago.

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142.

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Yes.

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Right?

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And it’s about how to navigate
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on your elemental nature.

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So if any of what we just described sounds
familiar, go back and listen to that one,

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um, and see how that feels with you today.

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And before we go any further, we
really wanna say that the feeling of

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being overwhelmed, it’s not a problem.

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I would like to say more of a challenge.

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Yes.

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It can be emotional challenge.

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It can be a physical challenge.

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It could be a spiritual challenge.

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All of the things can be overwhelmed.

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Right.

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But I think it’s a challenge
and not necessarily a problem.

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Right, because you always substitute
the word challenge for problems.

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Right?

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Right.

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But it’s not a sign that
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What’s happening when you face
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spirit, what we call your Shen,
is actually trying to guide you.

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The struggle is part of a guiding of you.

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Your your spirit, your
Shen, is the part of you that

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knows what it’s always known.

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And once you understand that, then
you’re ready for the alchemy work.

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You’re ready to start
your alchemy journey.

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Specifically, the nine stages of alchemy,
which is a, a map, we like to say a

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road map, for transformation provided
by ancient alchemists that just kinda

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give you a guide along the way of
the work that we are doing right now.

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Yeah.

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And if you feel stuck and don’t know
what you want, alchemy can help you walk

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through these stages of transformation.

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And stage one of alchemy starts with
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And then the second most important
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Which is the first?

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Wait.

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Who’s on first?

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What’s on second?

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I was gonna say the
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The… Let’s just say- So
what’s the most important?

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I actually… The most
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And then the second- And then the
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important is what do I actually want?

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‘Cause you gotta get
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Yes.

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Now, it’s not what I think I should want
because everyone else told me that I

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should want that, not what looks good from
the outside, but what do I genuinely want?

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Yeah, that’s a, that’s a really
challenging question, ’cause people

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sometimes skip over it or they go too
fast, or like you just said, they,

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they, they do something in their
life that other people expect them

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to do, and they don’t really… Their
heart’s not in it, or they just,

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they’re not aligned, uh, energetically.

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And here’s one thing, another
thing, Lita, that some people

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misunderstand about alchemy.

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They think it’s about mystical stuff like
turning lead into gold, and that is true.

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Uh, and there is different
types of alchemy.

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And as much as I love Harry Potter
magical stuff, and I do, right?

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Gotta love me Adobe, right?

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It’s a different kind of magic.

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It’s internal magic, internal alchemy.

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It’s what we call inner alchemy,
and there’s a difference.

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And we’re gonna also have a podcast
on that coming up, too, which we

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really dive into all the different,
uh, forms of alchemy out there.

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So- Yeah … um, I’m really
excited about that as well.

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So- And- … uh, the Daoist alchemy
is what we’re talking about.

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Yeah.

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This one right here.

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Inner.

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Exactly.

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That inner alchemy, the Daoist version of
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not lead into gold, and becoming… That
is what the classical texts call becoming

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a Zhenren, Z-H-E-N-R-E-N, a realized human
being, fully, authentically yourself.

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Not who your parents wanted you to
be, as much as, like, you wanted

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to be that person for them, and
not who society says you should be.

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Yeah, and I’ll just add, not what
your partner wants you to be,

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not what your children wants you
to be, not what your neighbors.

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it’s, it’s what you… What is,
what, what is your authentic self?

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And it’s about Wu Wei, which we
translate as inspired action,

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hence the name of this podcast.

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Wu Wei is how you practice
your authenticity in the world.

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It’s the daily work.

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It’s how inner alchemy actually
happens in a real life, not

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just in a philosophy book.

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It’s an ancient spiritual technology
for when you sense there’s more

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to life than this, and that’s
something that we’re also…

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We’re kinda giving you little hints here
what we’re gonna have our podcast on.

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Yes.

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Because we’re gonna be talking about
all these topics about how to understand

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yourself, how to move through the world
authentically, how to, you know, if you

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choose to, start to understand alchemy.

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And you know, I love…

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Everyone who knows me know I love to
talk about the Wu Wei and creativity

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and different things, so we’re gonna
all explain all of that as, again,

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this is the podcast about the podcast.

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Yes, and there is so, so much
more, and that’s why you’re here

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So we’re gonna go much deeper on
all of this But wait, wait, wait.

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Before we go, Leda, let’s just do a
little orientation, five elements, and the

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alchemy roadmap for those who are just,
just wanting a little bit more today.

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And since some of you are brand new,
you might be wondering, you know,

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where does all this stuff come from?

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Who are we?

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Why are we talking?

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Who are we?

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Who?

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Who?

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Who?

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Who?

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I really wanna know.

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I could be the only one who really wants
to know, but- Right … I’m just saying.

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I know.

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Well, let’s just say for those
who might not know us- Well,

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let’s give them the little bio.

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Yes.

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I’m gonna let you do it,
’cause you do it really well.

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All right.

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Well, I’m Leda Herman.

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I’m a practitioner- Hi,
Leda, nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you.

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And I’m a practitioner of Chinese
medicine, but specifically

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alchemical Chinese medicine,
and I have been teaching it.

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And for over 25 years, I’ve been studying
it with Master Jeffrey Yuen, an 88th

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generation Daoist priest, and taking
that wisdom into my clinical practice,

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and really trying to understand that
with all the people I’ve worked with.

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So for the past 12 years or so,
Jay and I have been sharing that

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wisdom through teaching, writing.

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You know, doing this podcast has
been really a big part of it.

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It’s been fun, too.

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So why don’t you just keep going?

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Go ahead, you.

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All right.

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And Jay- I don’t feel
like tooting my own horn.

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Right.

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You can toot it.

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Okay, I’ll toot your horn.

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It’s a very little horn.

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It’s a tiny tootin’ horn.

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Okay.

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So for Jay, Jay came into this
alchemy work already having had

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a lot of experience doing life
coaching type of work in her previous

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marketing, uh, role in the world.

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And- All right.

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I’ll toot my horn.

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The little tiny horn.

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Toot, toot, toot.

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Okay.

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So I’m Jay, and the alchemy work that
I do, I love to say I’m a student

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of alchemy, alchemist in training.

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Like everyone in our program,
we say alchemist in training.

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So even if you’re listening
and you’re into alchemy, you’re

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an alchemist in training.

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Right.

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Um, I like to do, you know, let’s
call it life coaching, but that…

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I really don’t align with that word.

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So we kinda came up with a,
a, a term called alchemy life

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strategy, because we’re not really
coaching, we’re not really guiding.

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It’s not therapy.

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It’s a whole new concept on how we
can try to get people clear on what

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they actually want in their life using
the five elements, using the nine

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palaces, which we’ll talk about more
in the podcast for sure, and laying

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out or trying to find the guides, the,
the markers in the alchemy roadmap.

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Then with all that information, I
try to help people… Like, I’ll

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say help in air quotes, right?

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Help people find their way so they can
go live their true authentic lives.

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And it’s a journey, and I like to
say I hold up the mirror, and we talk

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about it, we laugh, we cry, we go deep.

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And we also are teachers and
authors, and we love this podcast

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like we’ve already mentioned.

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So we have a very active life in the
study of the Daoism and the study of

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alchemy, uh, and Chinese medicine.

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So we’re kinda in it.

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We’re kinda, like,
nerding out all the time.

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So if you like this stuff and you
wanna be nerds- … you have found

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your, you’ve found your podcast.

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Yes.

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‘Cause we get super nerdy all the time.

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Yes.

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And we’re partners in life as
well as business, and we’ve

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been together since 2012.

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What?

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What?

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I thought you, I just met you.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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How do you do?

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I know, and we’ve done so much fun,
and we’ve been traveling the world, and

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yeah, all the things we mentioned before.

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Yeah.

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It’s just a great life.

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Yeah.

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And we’re not at the top of the
mountain just yelling down instructions.

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We might be yodeling- … but we’re
not yelling down instructions.

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We do like a good yodel.

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Yodel-lay-hee-hoo.

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We’re just walking the path with you.

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And maybe sometimes we can
say, “Hey, watch out for that

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rock,” or something like that.

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Or maybe left, maybe right.

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We- we’ll go there with you.

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Yes, and that happens too.

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So it’s, it’s about the practice,
and that’s why we’re here.

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And at the same time, there are those
who walked the path long before us and

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left markers that we’re still finding.

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And we’re so grateful for all the
people that have come before us and

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have given this knowledge freely,
and we like to do that as well.

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We don’t feel like we’re gatekeepers,
but we do love to follow the breadcrumbs

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that they have left for us and
for everyone out there- Yes … to

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follow along if you so choose.

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And that’s actually why the
timing of this new season matters

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to us in this year of 2026.

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And why would that matter, Lita?

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The suspense is killing me.

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Because if you know anything
about the Chinese zodiac, you

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know this isn’t just any year.

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It’s the Year of the Fire Horse.

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Woo-hoo.

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Woo!

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And we moved into it way back in February.

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Now, it’s, we’re- But it’s
the Year of the Fire Horse.

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Yes, and- So we can still
talk about it … and yes.

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And so just a couple months in, it’s
absolutely living up to its name.

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Yeah, the horse is already
a fire animal with passion,

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vitality, speed, forward momentum.

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It doesn’t wait for permission.

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It just runs.

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It charges.

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It goes.

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And then you add fire on top of the
horse as a fire animal, which means

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double fire, so everything that fire
represents, joy, connection, creativity,

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the desire to truly live, fully amplified.

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Yeah, the fire horse is out of the gate.

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It has run out of the barn.

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00:19:01,437 –> 00:19:04,707
It is running through the world,
and maybe with a little intensity.

452
00:19:04,727 –> 00:19:08,757
Maybe things moving faster than you may
like, and that’s okay- Yeah … because

453
00:19:08,757 –> 00:19:10,627
we’re in this Year of the Fire Horse.

454
00:19:10,837 –> 00:19:11,857
But here’s the key thing.

455
00:19:11,857 –> 00:19:16,927
The Fire Horse year isn’t chaotic
because the energy is bad.

456
00:19:17,337 –> 00:19:20,607
It’s intense only if you resist it.

457
00:19:21,274 –> 00:19:26,074
When your doors are shut and all that
powerful energy is just pushing against

458
00:19:26,074 –> 00:19:31,294
those doors, that’s when it feels like too
much But when your doors are open or when

459
00:19:31,294 –> 00:19:37,333
you allow things to move through you…
It becomes the fuel, the pure joy- Ding,

460
00:19:37,333 –> 00:19:41,304
ding, ding, ding, ding … the vitality
that makes life feel exciting- Yeah

461
00:19:41,304 –> 00:19:42,164
instead of exhausting.

462
00:19:42,183 –> 00:19:45,273
And that can be the difference between
a hard year and a beautiful year.

463
00:19:45,573 –> 00:19:49,724
It’s, it isn’t the year itself, it’s
how you are moving through the year.

464
00:19:49,773 –> 00:19:52,563
It’s whether your doors
are open or closed.

465
00:19:52,573 –> 00:19:52,773
Yeah.

466
00:19:52,804 –> 00:19:55,783
And that is exactly what our
next episode is gonna be about.

467
00:19:55,783 –> 00:20:00,054
We’re gonna talk a little bit more and
go deeper on the fire horse year and

468
00:20:00,054 –> 00:20:04,123
what it means for you personally based
on your own five elemental nature, and

469
00:20:04,123 –> 00:20:08,133
we’re gonna teach a, a foundational
Daoist meditation that we wrote on

470
00:20:08,143 –> 00:20:10,763
opening your doors and letting energy in.

471
00:20:11,033 –> 00:20:11,513
Yes.

472
00:20:11,794 –> 00:20:15,403
And it’s one of the most powerful
practices in all of Daoist alchemy.

473
00:20:15,433 –> 00:20:18,093
Honestly, it’s exactly what
this year is asking for.

474
00:20:18,154 –> 00:20:19,980
Yeah, they just didn’t know
they were asking for it.

475
00:20:19,980 –> 00:20:20,016
Yes.

476
00:20:20,016 –> 00:20:20,269
Well, now we’re … we understand that.

477
00:20:20,269 –> 00:20:20,824
So that’s gonna be our next podcast,

478
00:20:23,683 –> 00:20:24,964
uh, Pod 146.

479
00:20:25,244 –> 00:20:26,183
We’re gonna let you know that.

480
00:20:26,183 –> 00:20:27,134
We’re gonna go deeper.

481
00:20:27,363 –> 00:20:28,704
We’re gonna give you a meditation.

482
00:20:28,854 –> 00:20:31,404
So Leta, all right, that was
a great little teaser, little

483
00:20:31,404 –> 00:20:34,514
tidbit of what’s coming on,
what’s going on, what’s coming up.

484
00:20:34,733 –> 00:20:36,784
I think we’re gonna
keep this podcast short.

485
00:20:36,854 –> 00:20:38,204
I think we should get right into it.

486
00:20:38,503 –> 00:20:40,523
Um, so if you’re here,
thank you very much.

487
00:20:40,564 –> 00:20:42,303
If you’re new, thank you very much.

488
00:20:42,303 –> 00:20:46,193
If you’re, I don’t wanna say
old- … you’re like, “What?” ‘Cause,

489
00:20:46,193 –> 00:20:49,053
you know, you might be immortal, but
if you’re… No matter where you are-

490
00:20:49,053 –> 00:20:51,273
Oh, right … on the podcast here,
thank you, thank you, thank you.

491
00:20:51,534 –> 00:20:54,213
And we’re back, and
we’re happy to be here.

492
00:20:54,213 –> 00:20:58,373
So again, emails are great, and you
can reach out to us anytime at… Uh,

493
00:20:58,384 –> 00:21:01,744
leta@inspiredactionpodcast.com- Or jay-

494
00:21:01,924 –> 00:21:03,533
jay@inspiredactionpodcast.com.

495
00:21:03,623 –> 00:21:06,324
And you can also find us anywhere
that you’re already listening

496
00:21:06,324 –> 00:21:08,364
to, uh, maybe iTunes or Google.

497
00:21:08,634 –> 00:21:12,004
And please, if you can leave a review,
a rate and review, it really does

498
00:21:12,004 –> 00:21:14,973
matter, ’cause people from all over
the world find this little podcast,

499
00:21:15,323 –> 00:21:18,994
and they listen and they reach out,
and we make connections all the time.

500
00:21:18,994 –> 00:21:19,843
So it does help.

501
00:21:19,843 –> 00:21:24,073
If you could just take one second to
make a little review, that’d be great.

502
00:21:24,153 –> 00:21:26,303
Even if you’ve written one
before, write another one.

503
00:21:26,314 –> 00:21:27,104
Oh, please.

504
00:21:27,753 –> 00:21:28,083
Thank you.

505
00:21:28,093 –> 00:21:28,343
Woo-hoo.

506
00:21:29,093 –> 00:21:31,093
So until next time… Stay curious.

507
00:21:31,434 –> 00:21:32,554
Be your wonderful self.

508
00:21:32,753 –> 00:21:36,413
Remember to look for those
breadcrumbs, those signs, those 509
00:21:36,464 –> 00:21:40,033
sometimes neon, sometimes hidden,
but they’re on the alchemy path.

510
00:21:40,104 –> 00:21:40,924
They’re on your path.

511
00:21:41,294 –> 00:21:45,028
So keep looking And remember,
we’re all alchemists in training.

512
00:21:45,028 –> 00:21:45,092
Woo!

513
00:21:45,092 –> 00:21:45,158
Woo!

514
00:21:45,158 –> 00:21:47,588
Alchemists in training.

515
00:21:48,068 –> 00:21:48,088
Yay.

516
00:21:49,128 –> 00:21:49,678
Thank you, bye.

517
00:21:50,118 –> 00:21:50,278
Thank you.

518
00:21:50,498 –> 00:21:53,487
You’ve been listening to the
Inspired Action Alchemy podcast,

519
00:21:53,487 –> 00:21:54,298
and you’ve reached the end.

520
00:21:55,007 –> 00:21:55,317
Woo-hoo.

521
00:21:56,057 –> 00:21:56,097
Woo-hoo.

522
00:21:56,318 –> 00:21:59,067
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523
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524
00:22:01,157 –> 00:22:04,277
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525
00:22:04,497 –> 00:22:07,578
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526
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527
00:22:10,057 –> 00:22:14,837
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528
00:22:15,318 –> 00:22:18,318
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529
00:22:18,318 –> 00:22:23,508
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530
00:22:23,778 –> 00:22:26,607
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531
00:22:27,388 –> 00:22:30,837
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532
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533
00:22:33,528 –> 00:22:38,717
Join us next week for another inspiring
conversation, and thank you for listening.

534
00:22:38,997 –> 00:22:41,987
Yes, thank you for listening, and
remember to hug the dog, and, you know,

535
00:22:42,028 –> 00:22:45,137
give yourself a hug, too, because you
both probably deserve a really nice hug.

536
00:22:46,467 –> 00:22:46,937
Yourself.

537
00:22:47,198 –> 00:22:48,058
Yes, hug yourself.

538
00:22:48,667 –> 00:22:50,517
Go ahead, hug your-
that seems funny, right?

539
00:22:50,628 –> 00:22:52,458
Just wrap your arms around,
give a little wiggle.

540
00:22:52,507 –> 00:22:53,027
It’s easy.

541
00:22:55,978 –> 00:22:57,007
I think you yodeled.

542
00:22:57,247 –> 00:22:58,088
Did I yodel?

543
00:22:58,088 –> 00:22:58,196
I think you yodeled.

544
00:22:58,196 –> 00:22:58,250
You yodeled.

545
00:22:58,250 –> 00:22:58,587
I yodeled.

546
00:22:58,618 –> 00:22:59,877
No, you yodeled.

547
00:22:59,877 –> 00:23:00,737
Yodel-ay-hoo.

548
00:23:01,227 –> 00:23:02,348
No, yodel-ay-you too.

549
00:23:03,637 –> 00:23:04,827
Oh my God, we’re now yodeling.

550
00:23:04,827 –> 00:23:05,428
Ticky, ticky, tick.

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