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Welcome to Inspired Action Alchemy.

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This is where we have motivational,
inspiring conversations and interviews

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that we hope you’ll enjoy listening to.

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Join us and other Inspired
Alchemists-in-training on this

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alchemical transformational journey
Otherwise known as a podcast.

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Welcome back to the Inspired
Action Alchemy podcast.

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This is pod 148.

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My name is Jaye, and I’m here with
my co-host, as always, Leta Herman.

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Hello, Inspired Alchemists.

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Hello, Inspired Alchemists.

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Yay, we’re so happy that you’re here.

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We’re gonna slow it down, Leta.

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We’re gonna take our time today, and I’m
trying to give you a little hint about

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what the podcast is gonna be about today.

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Because, I always like to slow down.

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Oh, yeah, Not.

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Yeah, I just thought it would be… see
if you could pick up that hint in what

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you would say about- Oh … slowing down.

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I wish I was slow, but
I’m just super fast.

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Super fast.

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Yeah.

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okay, so before we begin, let’s do
a little recap of the last podcast,

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number 147, which was on s- Plant
Spirit Alchemy with Brittany Chowning.

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It was so much fun.

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A lot of people loved it.

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it was really great to
have her on the show.

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It was really great.

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I loved having Brittany on the show.

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She connects in such a deep way with
the natural world, and with plants

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in particular, as do I, and we loved
teaching a live workshop together with

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Jaye back at the end of July on how
the plant spirit world could really

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enhance our alchemical journeys.

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We used Artemisia as a starting place,
the plant we use for moxibustion in

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Chinese medicine, so that was super cool.

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That was cool.

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We did a, little bit of Multi-D,
multidimensional traveling.

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We did shamanic journeys, and that was
a four-hour workshop that we taught,

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so you can listen to the podcast.

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And if you’re interested, that
four-hour workshop now lives in

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the alchemylearningcenter.com.

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So if you ever wanna
check it out, it is there.

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And again, it was really fun to talk
about those things that we don’t

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often talk about with other people.

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Yeah.

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We talked about how the spirits
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the animals, even the stones, fro-
Especially the stones … especially

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the stones, for those of you
who’ve done Alchemy Stone Medicine.

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Alchemists.

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And we have a… we actually have an
episode on Alchemy Stone Medicine.

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All of those natural beings,
they’re, they’re much slower than

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humans are, so to connect with
them all, we have to slow down.

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Well, you don’t really
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You can, like, literally just slow down.

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Okay.

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But I know you think that’s more fun.

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Is that what it feels
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Yes.

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It’s actually… Yes.

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That’s really funny.

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All right.

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I have to talk like that to slow down.

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Oh, boy.

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Okay, I’m glad that you
don’t slow down then.

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Yes.

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But before we get into today’s podcast
episode, let’s just update everyone on

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this another cool thing that we did.

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we’re almost done with it.

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It’s a new program which you can
do fast or slow- … like Leta.

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it’s called From Seeker to Alchemist,
and it’s a self-paced program online

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in the learning connec- in the
learning center, and it’s almost done.

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And it’s designed for people to…
It’s like a companion for anyone who’s

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into Alchemy or maybe listening to
this podcast who wanna know more about

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the nine stages of Alchemy, which
we talk about almost every episode.

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And to really do the Alchemy
yourself with those self-paced

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modules, exercises at home.

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So, you know, we’re, we’re excited
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this is life-changing work, so
this is a way that you can start

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to engage that on your own at home.

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Yeah, we hope it’s inspiring, and we
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the world, and this is a great way
for someone who’s brand new, to really

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start to understand what Alchemy’s
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like you said, how you can bring
it in as, like, an immersion

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into your life at your own pace.

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And if you stay to the end of this
podcast episode, we also have a free

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meditation for you today which goes
with the theme of today, and that

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meditation’s called What Do I Really Want?

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And it’s one of the meditations
we love to start everyone with

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in Alchemy, so that’s cool.

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If you don’t have the answer to
that, then check out this meditation.

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I love that meditation.

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You could call on it any time.

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It’s not just a one and done.

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It’s just another tool in your Alchemy
toolbox- Yes … of self-cultivation.

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Yes.

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And we also want to invite you… We’re
running a campaign for Amazon reviews on

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our book, Cultivating the Thirteen Ghost
Points, because we just came out with our

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soft cover version, and that’s gonna make
it really a lot more accessible for people

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on Amazon or wherever you get your books.

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So if you read the book and you liked it
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or jaye@inspiredactionpodcast.com
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from either the Inspired Action
Alchemy podcast swag or the Alchemy

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Learning Center swag, like a T-shirt.

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Maybe we can send out the new
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gonna create just for this occasion
of the Thirteen Ghost Points.

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It’s called, Gui are People Too.

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Yes.

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And- And for those of you who
don’t know, Gui means ghost.

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So- Yes … it’s a ghost T-shirt.

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For anyone out there doing
this work, whether you’re an

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acupuncturist or an alchemist.

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It’s a little nerdy T-shirt.

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So we’ll definitely, hook you
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Also, if you like this podcast, even a
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or smile or think, or maybe you learned
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whatever, but if you like it, please
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click on the stars if you like It helps
other people find us, and we’re all about

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bringing more Alchemy out in the world,
and this is one way that we love to do it.

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Yes.

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And let’s get started.

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I can’t wait.

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And we’re gonna slow you down.

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Okay.

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All right.

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We’ll try to find a little bit of a pace.

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But what we wanna talk about
today is- What do we want?

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What, why do we want it,
and why do we want it now?

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Yes, just like that Queen song.

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I want it all, I want
it all, I want it all.

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I want it now.

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Not, my best Freddie Mercury.

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It should be, what do I really want?

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What do I really want?

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What do I really… There you go.

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I really want it now.

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I don’t know what it
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So that, oh, that was your inner Freddie.

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I don’t know.

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I, I’ve heard Freddie a little better

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But I do love Freddie Mercury Yes.

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He was such a great guy.

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okay, so let’s go with, you know, I
want it, I want it all, I want it now.

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So you can see the theme of want, so
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And here’s what we wanna say right at the
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might expect that wanting is bad in some
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that idea that being desireless is good.

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No judgment.

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No judgment.

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Whatever path you’re on.

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But you might be surprised.

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Alchemy is not trying to get rid
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It’s- It’s almost kind of like
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expect when we talk about this.

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A lot of paths will point you towards
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It’s about your passion.

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Your passion comes from your heart,
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life, that passion has to be lit.
You’re not trying to put that fire out.

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You want to ignite it.

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You want to engage it.

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You wanna understand it.

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You wanna get to know
what you actually want.

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Yeah, what are you asking
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What are you asking more about?

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The passion or the wanting
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No, the passion is the fuel.

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It’s what we do with it
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So then the question is, why are humans
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And they want the good part
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Well, the good part, we don’t
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wrong, but the good part here today
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And I do think, most of us know
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moment, the now, is where it’s at.

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Who could really argue that?

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I don’t know.

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I’d be up for a debate.

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We could see what happens, right?

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That’s- That’s all we have … that’s
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Now, if you ha- if you’ve read that
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There is only now.

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You, don’t have yesterday.

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You don’t have the next minute even.

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Every day of our lives,
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That’s so true.

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I get it, I get it, I get it.

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But that doesn’t mean we should
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Well, Alchemy is a journey of
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something more, moving you forward.

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It gives you motivation, and
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at the beginning of Alchemy.

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But I just wanna, before we go onto that,
I just wanna say not everyone is in a

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place to want more at this very moment.

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Some people may have just come
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that’s really challenging, and, the
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bad to happen to them o- or their
loved ones, and that’s a completely

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reasonable thing to want as well.

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It’s a different kind of
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They still want that.

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And if that’s where you are currently,
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We’re gonna talk a lot about the people
who are seeking and wanting, and if you’re

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in that other place where you just wanna
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you just don’t want bad things to happen.

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Then Alchemy can help release some of
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carrying with you from that trauma.

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So that’s cool.

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But- Well, there’s always a but.

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There’s always a but the real work
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Is there more to life than this?

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And that question, it needs the
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grounding, some steadiness, that
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And remember, there’s no hurry in Alchemy.

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It’s a journey.

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It’s not a race.

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And what we want, it’s
different for everyone.

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We all want something and, you
know, there’s commonality there.

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A lot of us like love, ease, prosperity
You know, everyone is different though,

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in fact, about w- how they want that.

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I’m not even sure there are two
people on the planet who want exactly

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the same combination of things.

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I think statistically
that could be challenging.

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Yes.

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But… But I think our unique
ways that we want more, that’s

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the best thing about humans.

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Nobody ever built anything
because they were content.

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It’s a bit of a woody perspective.

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Wood don’t like content.

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Yes.

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No.

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Content is not the wood state.

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No.

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Because, you know, for those of you who
are new to the five elements of Chinese

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medicine and the way we teach them,
Wood energy is the energy that moves

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the world forward and gets bleep done.

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Bleep?

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Bleep.

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We can’t say bleep?

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Yeah.

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Bleepity bleep, bleep, bleep.

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That poor bleep word.

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Yes.

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Right?

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You hear three bleeps and you,
someone’s yelling at you bad.

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But yeah.

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Yes.

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So without the wood energy, Leta,
you’re saying there’d be no growth.

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There’d be no growth, and so wood
energy brings growth to all of us.

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It’s the plants bursting through
the ground in the spring, and we

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all need that to get bleep done.

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To get bleep done.

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And remember, everyone has all five
elements in you, so somewhere in

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there you have the bleep in wood.

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Yes.

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Right?

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And, yes, and you also have fire,
which brings the passion we already

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talked about, the passion of the
heart, and you have earth, which

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brings in thought and intention.

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And a safe space, safe container.

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And metal, which helps us
with organization and, like,

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specific things getting done.

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Like a little bit, and also some
respect and some- Yes … like order.

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Yes, and preciseness.

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And then water helps us with
that motivation and momentum.

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And maybe stamina.

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And definitely that stamina there.

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They’re all important.

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Yes, and all five are essential, but
this idea of wanting more or really the

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idea of trying to make things better,
that is very specific to wood energy.

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And you know, I thought of another
really cool thing about wanting.

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Most people don’t know that
the accurate way to look at

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acupuncture meridians on the body
is with your arms above your head.

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Do you want me to, like,
throw my arms up in the air?

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Yeah.

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Boom.

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Hey.

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That’s like touchdown.

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You mean football, right?

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That’s all right.

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We can talk slowly.

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Okay.

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It means touchdown- … when
they score some points.

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Okay.

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All right, so in the touchdown position
with your arms above your head.

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I’m there, yes.

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Go back to the meridians.

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Yes.

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The heart channel then runs up your
arms, and metaphorically what that means

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is that you’re reaching towards heaven.

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Your heart is reaching for more.

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We’re doing it again.

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Spiritual touchdown.

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Yes.

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Woo!

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Woo!

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Spiritual touchdown.

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Yes.

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It’s not just Woody, it’s everyone.

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Yes.

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It’s just everyone who wants to
reach up and want more or celebrate.

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Or like in church when you’re
singing, arms up, or, you know,

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children often raise their arms
to their mom when they want help.

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They wanna be lifted up.

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Yeah.

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It’s very cool-
Yeah … visual there, Leta.

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It’s a great visual.

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And when you think about the spiritual
side of things, you know, whatever the

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highest thing is on your particular
spiritual path, whether it’s Buddhahood,

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immortality, Kundalini, enlightenment,
whatever that tradition promises

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You know, that’s what we want.

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The gurus, the yoginis, the bodhisattvas,
the saints, those are the people

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who inspired us to start the path.

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Yeah, they’re all seeking something.

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Yeah.

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They’re all wanting more in
their own religion or practice.

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Yeah.

331
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Right?

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So- Yeah, and honestly, I mean, who
wouldn’t want it all right now, you know?

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Yeah.

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That’s, that’s what people
feel when they’re on that

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path and they’re desiring it.

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I do think it’s true for many
people, especially in our younger

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years, in our youth, we may be
more impatient and wanna hurry up.

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as you know, when you meet a young
person, they’re kinda in a hurry usually.

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But honestly, for me, I don’t really
feel that need to go super fast anymore.

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I’ve been working on my
connecting your circles.

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I know you as well, Leta, where you work
on all your five elements, which means

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you can be any element or at any time.

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You don’t have to be one specific element.

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We wrote a book called
Connecting Your Circle- What?

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… that explains how to do that.

346
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Yeah.

347
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That’s very cool.

348
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No.

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so and also with Alchemy, you know,
self-cultivation, thinking about

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the present moment, you know, a
Wu-Wei type of practice, you know,

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I love calling it pure presence.

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this is where I’m at.

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This is, I know where you’re at.

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This is where a lot of our students
that we teach Alchemy, you know,

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but that’s after a lot of work,
a lot of accountability, a lot

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of practice, a lot of dedication.

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Those are the things
that we’re kinda into.

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But I, gotta say, my younger
self, absolutely about the

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express lane, fast pass.

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Totally.

361
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Right?

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Totally.

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I love the fast pass.

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That’s great.

365
00:15:10,639 –> 00:15:13,699
Yeah, let’s talk a little bit about the,
Yeah … fast pass, the express lane.

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I think the term that a lot of people
talk about now, is spiritual bypass.

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00:15:18,810 –> 00:15:22,180
You know, what do the Alchemists
think about spiritual bypass?

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00:15:22,700 –> 00:15:27,509
Well, you know, th- they’re coming out
of this place where they meditated a lot.

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They, you know, they lived in temples
and monasteries, and they fled to

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the mountains with their friends.

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But when they did that,
they went into the caves.

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And you know, in the
caves it’s dark, right?

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And they, were in there for
three months or more at a time.

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So- Yeah, definitely not
a weekend intensive at-

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you know, the retreat center.

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Yes.

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And they meditated in the
dark with very little food.

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00:15:50,380 –> 00:15:51,729
We’ve seen the caves in China.

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Yes.

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You know?

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Those are amazing … there are a few
places in the world where you can go to

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a darkened cave experience in the world?

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Not too many.

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00:15:59,887 –> 00:16:03,147
I, would imagine they were going there
to un-people, that’s my new phrase now,

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un-people themselves, where they just
need to get away from distractions.

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Even back then, they had distractions
and people wanting attention, and

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now we’re overloaded with that.

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00:16:12,458 –> 00:16:16,668
So I’m co- I’m exploring this
concept of, you know, un-peopling.

389
00:16:16,767 –> 00:16:17,107
Yes.

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00:16:17,127 –> 00:16:20,377
And when you un-people and you
don’t have the stimulation or the

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distractions, you often, in that dark,
alone place, you meet your worst fears.

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You could call them the
monsters in the dark.

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00:16:29,198 –> 00:16:33,118
And the cool thing about that is when
you spend a lot of time with your

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monsters, you begin to see right through
them, that they’re, not that scary, big

395
00:16:38,017 –> 00:16:39,317
monster- Yeah … you thought they were.

396
00:16:39,558 –> 00:16:42,617
and actually, they’re
really all in your mind.

397
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Yeah.

398
00:16:43,367 –> 00:16:45,137
I think, you know, theater of the mind.

399
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And I don’t think un-peopling is that I
don’t like people- Right … or people,

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but you need to get a little retreat from
the constant noise of the world right now.

401
00:16:54,097 –> 00:16:54,117
Yeah.

402
00:16:54,127 –> 00:16:57,337
And I think that that’s what they were
doing by going in seclusion of the

403
00:16:57,337 –> 00:16:59,277
caves- Yeah … or on the mountains.

404
00:16:59,417 –> 00:17:00,107
Exactly.

405
00:17:00,107 –> 00:17:03,818
They learned to embrace their own
thoughts and let go of some of those

406
00:17:03,818 –> 00:17:05,678
desires they’d been reaching for.

407
00:17:05,938 –> 00:17:08,348
But they didn’t do that in the beginning.

408
00:17:08,357 –> 00:17:12,297
There was a lot of prep to get
ready to go into that deep practice.

409
00:17:12,667 –> 00:17:16,687
They also, you know, passed down
their findings in a lineage that

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generations since then have followed.

411
00:17:19,017 –> 00:17:22,607
And what they concluded, which is
the thing we most wanna talk about

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00:17:22,607 –> 00:17:27,897
today, is they mapped out these steps,
and they said, “Okay, as a beginner,

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00:17:28,277 –> 00:17:32,837
you know, you can, you can take
these steps, but don’t go too fast.”

414
00:17:33,087 –> 00:17:38,418
And they, started out with your
basic human nature before rushing

415
00:17:38,418 –> 00:17:40,727
to the, quote, unquote, good stuff.

416
00:17:40,758 –> 00:17:41,168
Yeah.

417
00:17:41,197 –> 00:17:45,077
I do think that they took
their time and they practiced.

418
00:17:45,328 –> 00:17:48,437
You know, they had to, like,
get comfortable with themselves.

419
00:17:48,477 –> 00:17:49,917
They had that beginner’s mind.

420
00:17:50,148 –> 00:17:51,617
It’s always at the beginning, right?

421
00:17:51,657 –> 00:17:54,357
Like, that’s why they call
it beginner’s mind, Lita.

422
00:17:54,607 –> 00:17:57,897
That’s not advanced mind or jump ahead
mind or let’s hurry up and go mind.

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00:17:58,137 –> 00:17:59,427
It’s the beginner’s mind.

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00:17:59,427 –> 00:18:02,587
And I know a lot of people struggle
with… You know, they think it’s

425
00:18:02,587 –> 00:18:06,917
a step backwards to go to the
beginner’s mind, but I always loved

426
00:18:06,927 –> 00:18:08,858
the beginner’s mind, for everything.

427
00:18:08,988 –> 00:18:09,488
Yeah.

428
00:18:10,038 –> 00:18:14,508
And it’s really, you know, this idea
that, like in modern life we’re encouraged

429
00:18:14,518 –> 00:18:19,228
to be on that fast track, fast food,
fast cars, fast talking, fast learning,

430
00:18:19,458 –> 00:18:21,458
which is a very left brain model.

431
00:18:21,458 –> 00:18:21,808
You know?

432
00:18:21,808 –> 00:18:25,408
There’s a limit to the,
that kind of learning.

433
00:18:25,677 –> 00:18:29,788
We actually, you know, in Alchemy we
also really encourage Alchemy and art

434
00:18:29,818 –> 00:18:35,857
because art activates our right brains
and we become more in the present

435
00:18:35,857 –> 00:18:39,967
moment, in that pure presence that
Jaye was talking about where we’re

436
00:18:39,967 –> 00:18:42,848
taking time to think and- And create.

437
00:18:43,077 –> 00:18:43,597
And create.

438
00:18:43,698 –> 00:18:45,708
Yeah Creativity is all
about being in the moment.

439
00:18:45,858 –> 00:18:46,348
Yeah.

440
00:18:46,687 –> 00:18:49,497
And you know- Well, let’s get back
to the Alchemists in the caves.

441
00:18:49,507 –> 00:18:50,007
Yes.

442
00:18:50,077 –> 00:18:50,357
Okay.

443
00:18:50,358 –> 00:18:52,947
They figured out some
things and left us a map.

444
00:18:53,108 –> 00:18:53,528
Yes.

445
00:18:53,538 –> 00:18:54,528
They unpeopled.

446
00:18:54,728 –> 00:18:55,148
Yes.

447
00:18:55,158 –> 00:18:55,498
Right?

448
00:18:55,667 –> 00:18:56,557
But in a good way.

449
00:18:56,597 –> 00:18:57,107
Right.

450
00:18:57,217 –> 00:19:00,807
And they called that map the
nine stages of Alchemy, and the

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00:19:00,807 –> 00:19:02,858
good news is anyone can do it.

452
00:19:02,947 –> 00:19:06,807
You don’t have to have 30 years of
meditation practice to get started.

453
00:19:06,947 –> 00:19:10,937
Well, and the quote unquote “bad
news,” if you do have 30 years

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00:19:10,937 –> 00:19:13,278
of meditation practice, you still
have to go back to the beginning.

455
00:19:13,278 –> 00:19:13,288
Yes.

456
00:19:13,288 –> 00:19:15,278
The beginner’s mind.

457
00:19:15,288 –> 00:19:15,318
Yes.

458
00:19:15,328 –> 00:19:16,377
It’s not a bad thing.

459
00:19:16,377 –> 00:19:16,407
yes.

460
00:19:16,617 –> 00:19:17,427
It’s a good thing.

461
00:19:17,527 –> 00:19:19,687
Well, actually, I’d argue
that it’s not bad news at all.

462
00:19:19,687 –> 00:19:19,817
Right.

463
00:19:20,157 –> 00:19:24,217
Even for them, because everybody
assumes that all the transformation

464
00:19:24,248 –> 00:19:29,017
only comes when you get to those high
level transcendent meditations, but

465
00:19:29,358 –> 00:19:33,347
they’ll get there faster if they can
get into altered states, for example.

466
00:19:33,358 –> 00:19:35,157
Th- then they get that transcendence.

467
00:19:35,468 –> 00:19:40,838
But actually, it’s the ordinary
human nature stuff that we work on

468
00:19:40,838 –> 00:19:45,268
in the beginning levels of Alchemy
in our day-to-day lives that brings

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00:19:45,268 –> 00:19:49,977
the most transformation, and quite
quickly in the big scheme of things.

470
00:19:49,987 –> 00:19:50,157
Yeah.

471
00:19:50,157 –> 00:19:51,568
I think everyone’s on their own path.

472
00:19:51,748 –> 00:19:55,997
But again, no hurry, no right, no
wrong, no good, no fast or slow.

473
00:19:56,157 –> 00:19:56,357
Yes.

474
00:19:56,358 –> 00:19:57,587
It’s what you bring to it.

475
00:19:58,517 –> 00:20:01,997
and so I do think the Alchemists
were not in a hurry, and

476
00:20:01,998 –> 00:20:04,077
they gave us some examples.

477
00:20:04,108 –> 00:20:07,327
You know, they might have taken a long
time to get ready to go to the caves.

478
00:20:07,587 –> 00:20:10,192
Yes, but- And but not everyone in
the caves was doing Alchemy, correct?

479
00:20:10,192 –> 00:20:14,087
Yes, but in the big scheme of things,
you know, where it takes lifetimes

480
00:20:14,087 –> 00:20:16,507
to evolve- Right … Alchemy is
really fast when you think about it.

481
00:20:16,507 –> 00:20:16,587
Right.

482
00:20:16,587 –> 00:20:18,078
So start with the ordinary.

483
00:20:18,287 –> 00:20:18,517
Yes.

484
00:20:18,527 –> 00:20:19,317
Human part life.

485
00:20:19,457 –> 00:20:20,307
Start with right now.

486
00:20:20,307 –> 00:20:21,258
You’re in this lifetime.

487
00:20:21,557 –> 00:20:21,637
Yeah.

488
00:20:21,637 –> 00:20:23,528
You’re in this part, you
need to start here, right?

489
00:20:23,528 –> 00:20:26,978
That was- And, that’s really good news
because it means anyone can do this.

490
00:20:26,987 –> 00:20:27,317
Right.

491
00:20:27,317 –> 00:20:29,038
And that was a big thing in, Alchemy.

492
00:20:29,438 –> 00:20:33,497
Anyone, it didn’t matter whether you
were rich or poor or old or young

493
00:20:33,637 –> 00:20:38,547
or male or female or non-binary,
it was everyone was included.

494
00:20:38,557 –> 00:20:41,317
So you don’t need 20 years of practice.

495
00:20:41,608 –> 00:20:43,227
You don’t need a retreat.

496
00:20:43,267 –> 00:20:47,447
You don’t need to be a
guru or go follow a guru.

497
00:20:47,447 –> 00:20:47,657
Right?

498
00:20:47,658 –> 00:20:49,428
The eight immortals,
they showed it, right?

499
00:20:49,477 –> 00:20:50,308
Yeah, Everyone.

500
00:20:51,167 –> 00:20:54,408
The first thing on the
Alchemy map is so, simple.

501
00:20:54,637 –> 00:20:58,397
It’s just asking, is your
life flowing or is it hard?

502
00:20:58,408 –> 00:21:01,952
And that’s the Basically
stage one of Alchemy.

503
00:21:02,012 –> 00:21:02,671
Yes Right?

504
00:21:02,671 –> 00:21:05,702
That’s the, that’s, I mean, that’s
a very quick version, but that’s it.

505
00:21:05,782 –> 00:21:06,081
Yes.

506
00:21:06,212 –> 00:21:07,732
Is it flowing or is it hard?

507
00:21:07,762 –> 00:21:08,151
Yes.

508
00:21:08,462 –> 00:21:13,881
And it’s that feeling that life is
hard that we’re, you know, we have

509
00:21:13,881 –> 00:21:14,983
to deal with right from the get-go.

510
00:21:14,983 –> 00:21:18,551
And I think everyone at one, some
point in their life knows that feeling.

511
00:21:18,601 –> 00:21:18,921
Yeah.

512
00:21:19,191 –> 00:21:22,791
And we love to talk about it and
share that feeling with others.

513
00:21:22,821 –> 00:21:26,461
You know, that’s, that feeling like
we have to fight for every single

514
00:21:26,462 –> 00:21:30,901
thing we want, like we’re swimming
upstream, where everything’s effortful.

515
00:21:32,052 –> 00:21:35,921
I mean, not, I mean, there’s a whole
company called Life is, Life is Easy.

516
00:21:35,932 –> 00:21:36,841
No, Life is Good.

517
00:21:36,881 –> 00:21:37,451
Life is good.

518
00:21:37,451 –> 00:21:38,322
Life is Good, that T-shirt, right?

519
00:21:38,331 –> 00:21:38,351
Yeah.

520
00:21:38,351 –> 00:21:40,312
Well, what if life is hard is good?

521
00:21:41,041 –> 00:21:41,331
Right?

522
00:21:41,342 –> 00:21:42,781
That means we’re working on our… Wait.

523
00:21:42,861 –> 00:21:43,512
Whoops, sorry.

524
00:21:44,181 –> 00:21:48,751
so you know- And, for me, I know this
personally, ’cause, like, I spent 10 years

525
00:21:48,752 –> 00:21:53,311
trying to write a book, and I’m, I’m,
I’m putting trying in air quotes here.

526
00:21:53,641 –> 00:21:58,871
And, you know, it- It just
never, it, was so much effort.

527
00:21:58,871 –> 00:22:00,361
I was swimming upstream.

528
00:22:00,421 –> 00:22:02,282
And what was the fix for that, Leta?

529
00:22:03,141 –> 00:22:03,627
Woo-hoo.

530
00:22:03,627 –> 00:22:05,433
Well, I had to turn around and
start- Scored the touchdown.

531
00:22:05,433 –> 00:22:05,619
Arms up.

532
00:22:05,619 –> 00:22:05,711
Woo.

533
00:22:05,711 –> 00:22:05,761
Yeah.

534
00:22:07,492 –> 00:22:10,542
I had to start going downstream,
and that’s genuinely it.

535
00:22:10,552 –> 00:22:15,351
Most of stage one is discovering that
the current was never against you,

536
00:22:15,701 –> 00:22:19,881
and what you discover when you do that
is that you were probably standing

537
00:22:19,881 –> 00:22:22,431
in your own way the whole time.

538
00:22:22,651 –> 00:22:26,002
And I mean, sure, there are
situational factors that might have

539
00:22:26,011 –> 00:22:30,322
contributed to that, but mostly it
was really about what you believed.

540
00:22:30,502 –> 00:22:33,721
If you believe that it’s not
going to work, you might as well

541
00:22:33,732 –> 00:22:34,706
be standing in your own way.

542
00:22:34,706 –> 00:22:36,171
You are standing in your own way.

543
00:22:36,182 –> 00:22:36,642
Yeah.

544
00:22:36,711 –> 00:22:39,701
Or at very least, you’ve hooked
an anchor onto the boat that’s

545
00:22:39,701 –> 00:22:41,931
holding you to float downstream.

546
00:22:42,041 –> 00:22:42,291
Yes.

547
00:22:42,291 –> 00:22:43,002
It’s holding you back.

548
00:22:43,052 –> 00:22:43,322
Yes.

549
00:22:43,631 –> 00:22:48,831
those are the things, the, that will
stop you from flowing with ease.

550
00:22:48,932 –> 00:22:49,382
Yes.

551
00:22:49,781 –> 00:22:55,471
And if you’re doing Alchemy, and you start
feeling like life could be or actually

552
00:22:55,482 –> 00:23:02,231
might be easy, you start to feel like,
“Hey, maybe I got this. Maybe I can do my

553
00:23:02,231 –> 00:23:08,541
life now.” And you start feeling hope and
a feeling of movement or even momentum.

554
00:23:08,661 –> 00:23:11,081
Yeah, and I think that when we
do the Alchemy Life Strategy

555
00:23:11,101 –> 00:23:12,681
sessions, this is a big theme of it.

556
00:23:12,951 –> 00:23:14,151
Can you get momentum?

557
00:23:14,201 –> 00:23:15,881
Can you feel the ease?

558
00:23:16,201 –> 00:23:19,272
And definitely in the early stages
of Alchemy, it really does help

559
00:23:19,272 –> 00:23:21,241
to, look at these challenges.

560
00:23:21,351 –> 00:23:23,282
Yeah, and you always say baby steps, Jaye.

561
00:23:23,301 –> 00:23:24,061
Right, baby steps.

562
00:23:24,061 –> 00:23:25,311
It’s little steps- Momentum

563
00:23:25,351 –> 00:23:27,091
that starts to bring the momentum.

564
00:23:27,451 –> 00:23:32,892
And then when you start getting that
ease, invariably you move into stage

565
00:23:32,892 –> 00:23:37,591
two of Alchemy, and stage two is
when life is easy enough that you

566
00:23:37,591 –> 00:23:39,771
can begin to reflect on the past.

567
00:23:40,121 –> 00:23:43,101
And when you do that, you start
to remember all the hurts from the

568
00:23:43,112 –> 00:23:44,982
past, and then the good stuff, too.

569
00:23:45,401 –> 00:23:50,371
And all of that stuff starts to
surface, mostly because your present

570
00:23:50,381 –> 00:23:52,881
life isn’t so full of drama anymore.

571
00:23:53,191 –> 00:23:57,221
And when they surface, you wanna
figure out how to let it go.

572
00:23:57,261 –> 00:24:00,421
How to let go of that bleeping
baggage of this lifetime, right?

573
00:24:00,461 –> 00:24:00,491
Yes.

574
00:24:00,841 –> 00:24:03,362
Old hurts that maybe you never put away.

575
00:24:03,362 –> 00:24:04,502
They’re tucked in there.

576
00:24:04,851 –> 00:24:08,331
You know, this, you’ve built this
armor on, you know, around your heart.

577
00:24:08,361 –> 00:24:11,352
Think of armor as about protection,
but it’s also- Yeah … big and

578
00:24:11,361 –> 00:24:14,612
heavy and, you know, you can’t
really move around too much in it.

579
00:24:14,612 –> 00:24:16,052
It’s all that guarding.

580
00:24:16,262 –> 00:24:17,762
Yeah, and ex- it’s exhausting.

581
00:24:17,762 –> 00:24:18,751
It’s exhausting, yes.

582
00:24:18,751 –> 00:24:19,171
Yeah.

583
00:24:19,542 –> 00:24:25,151
And the hurt happened a long time ago,
but the guarding is running every day,

584
00:24:25,182 –> 00:24:30,261
protecting you in every part of your
daily life forevermore, and that’s what’s

585
00:24:30,372 –> 00:24:33,321
actually the most draining and exhausting.

586
00:24:33,671 –> 00:24:38,131
And what surprises people who’ve
done decades of personal work or

587
00:24:38,131 –> 00:24:42,662
spiritual work, when they start doing
stage two of Alchemy, they report

588
00:24:42,662 –> 00:24:46,711
back that they thought they dealt
with these things through therapy or

589
00:24:46,711 –> 00:24:48,942
meditation, all types of spiritual work.

590
00:24:49,518 –> 00:24:55,108
But it’s stage two that actually helped
them not feel triggered anymore, and

591
00:24:55,108 –> 00:24:56,958
that’s, that’s what happens a lot.

592
00:24:56,988 –> 00:24:58,818
The wound finally gets quiet.

593
00:24:58,818 –> 00:25:02,637
Yeah, the guard, so to
speak, can finally retire.

594
00:25:02,748 –> 00:25:05,868
Yeah, and 20 years
later, no more guarding.

595
00:25:05,868 –> 00:25:08,708
That is, like, so freeing.

596
00:25:08,967 –> 00:25:13,167
And when you feel really good in yourself
and you no longer need to protect

597
00:25:13,268 –> 00:25:19,158
and guard, then stage three naturally
arrives, and it is kind of the strangest

598
00:25:19,158 –> 00:25:21,307
one in the nine stages of Alchemy.

599
00:25:21,648 –> 00:25:25,738
It’s about the parts of your life you just
don’t understand because it wasn’t even

600
00:25:25,738 –> 00:25:31,027
yours, like family patterns and things
that came down through your ancestry

601
00:25:31,027 –> 00:25:36,428
or from your past lives, things you
keep doing that you can’t explain why.

602
00:25:36,998 –> 00:25:41,937
And stage three helps you release those
mysterious influences on your life.

603
00:25:42,067 –> 00:25:42,897
Well, that’s really great.

604
00:25:42,897 –> 00:25:45,017
I love the way you just kind
of, like, summarized that.

605
00:25:45,018 –> 00:25:46,258
But I’ll do a quick summary.

606
00:25:46,268 –> 00:25:47,958
S- three stages.

607
00:25:47,987 –> 00:25:50,728
Up first, stage one, is life hard?

608
00:25:51,167 –> 00:25:51,997
That’s the question.

609
00:25:52,198 –> 00:25:52,668
Yes.

610
00:25:52,757 –> 00:25:54,898
Stage two, what are you guarding against?

611
00:25:54,907 –> 00:25:59,344
Mm. And stage three What did you inherit?

612
00:25:59,734 –> 00:26:00,494
Yes Right?

613
00:26:00,494 –> 00:26:03,934
Like those are the simplest
questions which we pull out in

614
00:26:03,934 –> 00:26:08,234
meditations and, you know, exercises
and different things that we do.

615
00:26:08,364 –> 00:26:11,664
And all of it comes before any of
the high level work that most of

616
00:26:11,664 –> 00:26:13,694
us want to find the fast track to.

617
00:26:13,744 –> 00:26:19,304
Yeah, and then what I love about this
work, it sounds hard, but it’s fun.

618
00:26:19,324 –> 00:26:20,284
It’s not grim.

619
00:26:20,324 –> 00:26:24,684
It’s really… It’s about, you
know, really looking at yourself.

620
00:26:24,754 –> 00:26:30,463
Yeah, and, surprisingly, it’s, it’s, it
is fun because, you know, people assume

621
00:26:30,474 –> 00:26:34,833
doing deep work means years of crying on
a couch, and actually, when it happens in

622
00:26:35,114 –> 00:26:36,924
Alchemy- Just hours crying on the couch.

623
00:26:39,723 –> 00:26:40,013
Yes.

624
00:26:40,053 –> 00:26:42,513
We do compress a lot- And we compress
… if you do one of those sessions.

625
00:26:42,533 –> 00:26:46,063
Yes, and we’re working with… A
lot of times we’re working with the

626
00:26:46,083 –> 00:26:52,703
acupoints themselves, and energy work,
and meditation, and that combination,

627
00:26:52,743 –> 00:26:55,603
things start to release on their
own, and I like to say organically.

628
00:26:56,594 –> 00:26:57,653
We’re not forcing it.

629
00:26:57,653 –> 00:26:59,484
Nobody’s excavating anything.

630
00:26:59,493 –> 00:26:59,703
Yeah.

631
00:26:59,703 –> 00:27:00,194
It just happens.

632
00:27:00,194 –> 00:27:03,984
Definitely more of a gentle mindset,
and that’s usually, like, sometimes

633
00:27:04,024 –> 00:27:07,334
almost even shockingly different
people, but… ‘Cause it works.

634
00:27:07,334 –> 00:27:09,464
It’s gentle and it moves things.

635
00:27:09,503 –> 00:27:12,744
You know, we’re not trying to
scare things or shock things.

636
00:27:13,053 –> 00:27:16,113
You know, they can go through
little challenging times, but

637
00:27:16,113 –> 00:27:18,243
then they surface fairly quickly.

638
00:27:18,244 –> 00:27:19,654
In a new way they feel better.

639
00:27:19,664 –> 00:27:20,743
It’s really about freedom.

640
00:27:20,973 –> 00:27:21,503
Yeah.

641
00:27:21,653 –> 00:27:22,153
Freedom.

642
00:27:22,204 –> 00:27:26,234
Yep, and people who’ve meditat-
meditated for 20-plus years say the

643
00:27:26,234 –> 00:27:31,263
same thing to us over and over again,
that something shifted that maybe all

644
00:27:31,393 –> 00:27:33,283
that meditation somehow couldn’t touch.

645
00:27:33,323 –> 00:27:37,553
Which is not any kind of diss on
meditation or self-cultivation,

646
00:27:37,553 –> 00:27:38,553
whatever you’re doing.

647
00:27:38,564 –> 00:27:41,924
It’s just that this is what
we’ve seen over the years.

648
00:27:41,963 –> 00:27:42,333
Yeah.

649
00:27:42,344 –> 00:27:43,433
Over and over and over.

650
00:27:43,493 –> 00:27:44,743
It’s just- It’s just something.

651
00:27:44,753 –> 00:27:45,353
A- Yeah.

652
00:27:45,373 –> 00:27:48,753
It’s just that some things don’t
move when you just sit with them.

653
00:27:48,763 –> 00:27:50,333
They move by being met.

654
00:27:50,573 –> 00:27:53,723
Okay, that just seems like a
natural segue to some homework.

655
00:27:53,783 –> 00:27:54,213
Okay.

656
00:27:54,403 –> 00:27:55,183
Make it easy.

657
00:27:55,393 –> 00:27:55,583
Yeah.

658
00:27:55,583 –> 00:27:59,373
Let’s have really, easy, and let’s
just do a couple things before we

659
00:27:59,373 –> 00:28:00,703
get to that meditation at the end.

660
00:28:00,704 –> 00:28:00,954
Yeah.

661
00:28:00,954 –> 00:28:02,483
Two things, both doable.

662
00:28:03,063 –> 00:28:03,983
Well, I like that.

663
00:28:03,993 –> 00:28:04,023
Yes.

664
00:28:04,073 –> 00:28:05,723
Anything doable is good in my book.

665
00:28:05,733 –> 00:28:05,763
Yes.

666
00:28:05,763 –> 00:28:09,604
All right, so number one,
notice how you reach in life.

667
00:28:10,204 –> 00:28:10,863
Catch yourself.

668
00:28:11,364 –> 00:28:12,553
Are you trying to skip ahead?

669
00:28:12,594 –> 00:28:13,514
Are you trying to go fast?

670
00:28:13,514 –> 00:28:14,513
Are you trying to fudge it?

671
00:28:14,534 –> 00:28:16,723
That’s a good word we didn’t talk
about today, fudging it, right?

672
00:28:16,733 –> 00:28:17,003
Yes.

673
00:28:17,053 –> 00:28:18,243
Where did that word come from?

674
00:28:18,303 –> 00:28:19,344
More fudge, right?

675
00:28:19,344 –> 00:28:20,013
Yeah, more fudge.

676
00:28:20,103 –> 00:28:20,293
Right?

677
00:28:20,394 –> 00:28:20,884
More is good.

678
00:28:20,993 –> 00:28:21,233
Right.

679
00:28:22,163 –> 00:28:23,673
are you trying to find the shortcut?

680
00:28:23,723 –> 00:28:27,133
Are… And, not trying to fix it,
you’re just trying to, like, bypass

681
00:28:27,133 –> 00:28:29,233
it or, you know, no judgment.

682
00:28:29,513 –> 00:28:32,743
Just notice how often you’re
trying to skip these steps.

683
00:28:33,998 –> 00:28:34,748
Down the road.

684
00:28:34,838 –> 00:28:37,058
Yeah Or are you trying to,
like- Ooh, skipping sounds fun

685
00:28:37,058 –> 00:28:38,338
skipping’s a good word too, right?

686
00:28:39,168 –> 00:28:40,748
So just little things,
so like observation.

687
00:28:42,137 –> 00:28:43,268
are you trying to move too fast?

688
00:28:43,418 –> 00:28:43,788
Yeah.

689
00:28:43,887 –> 00:28:44,327
There you go.

690
00:28:44,588 –> 00:28:48,497
And number two, which is harder,
name something that you’re

691
00:28:48,688 –> 00:28:50,238
still protecting against.

692
00:28:50,238 –> 00:28:54,257
Like, you have this guard that is
just watching out all the time,

693
00:28:54,668 –> 00:28:57,757
and maybe you thought it was over.

694
00:28:58,027 –> 00:29:00,567
Like, maybe you thought you dealt
with that already, but then you just

695
00:29:00,568 –> 00:29:04,428
notice, “Oh, I’m getting triggered by
whatever,” and I- And that might come

696
00:29:04,428 –> 00:29:07,878
out through the meditations- Yep … or
some, just some self-reflection.

697
00:29:08,288 –> 00:29:10,347
And you don’t have to
do anything about it.

698
00:29:10,347 –> 00:29:12,537
You don’t have to fix it or
process it or cry about it.

699
00:29:12,557 –> 00:29:13,788
We just want you to observe.

700
00:29:13,838 –> 00:29:14,218
Yeah.

701
00:29:14,417 –> 00:29:18,547
And you just admit that it’s there,
and then that’s part of stage two.

702
00:29:18,858 –> 00:29:20,857
And, you know, that’s a lot of the work.

703
00:29:21,338 –> 00:29:22,687
In air quotes on work.

704
00:29:22,728 –> 00:29:22,978
Yes.

705
00:29:23,018 –> 00:29:26,798
But it’s, it’s self-work, so it
should be somewhat enjoyable even

706
00:29:26,798 –> 00:29:31,057
if it’s not, like, “Woo-hoo,”
but it’s like, “Oh, really?” Yes.

707
00:29:31,057 –> 00:29:31,257
You know?

708
00:29:31,257 –> 00:29:32,508
It’s still good work.

709
00:29:32,607 –> 00:29:32,987
Yeah.

710
00:29:33,137 –> 00:29:36,507
And if you want some help
getting your Alchemy started,

711
00:29:36,917 –> 00:29:39,147
we talked about that meditation.

712
00:29:39,167 –> 00:29:41,108
I want- So is that the
third part of the homework?

713
00:29:41,148 –> 00:29:41,678
Yes.

714
00:29:41,718 –> 00:29:42,038
Okay.

715
00:29:42,117 –> 00:29:45,798
I want it all meditation for you, but
it’s actually- No, it’s what do I really

716
00:29:45,798 –> 00:29:47,077
want … it’s what do I really want.

717
00:29:47,147 –> 00:29:48,057
We could’ve called it that, but no.

718
00:29:48,057 –> 00:29:48,467
Yes.

719
00:29:48,467 –> 00:29:53,048
It’s, What if we… Okay,
here’s how we set it up.

720
00:29:53,487 –> 00:29:58,797
What if- What if … what if
we gave you permission to want

721
00:29:58,877 –> 00:30:01,647
whatever you actually want?

722
00:30:02,926 –> 00:30:05,616
That what if, you said what if-
Sure … we have a what if T-shirt.

723
00:30:06,025 –> 00:30:08,696
If you could have truly- But
first you have to, might have

724
00:30:08,706 –> 00:30:10,235
to find out what that is.

725
00:30:10,356 –> 00:30:10,846
Right.

726
00:30:11,216 –> 00:30:15,316
So if you could have truly anything
you want, what would it be?

727
00:30:15,316 –> 00:30:17,783
This is actually a harder
question than it sounds.

728
00:30:17,783 –> 00:30:18,716
Of course it is.

729
00:30:19,186 –> 00:30:20,685
That’s why I said it’s like,
oh, just a simple easy question.

730
00:30:20,696 –> 00:30:20,716
Yeah.

731
00:30:20,725 –> 00:30:21,565
What do I really want?

732
00:30:21,565 –> 00:30:24,095
It’s the really is the challenging part.

733
00:30:24,235 –> 00:30:24,395
Yes.

734
00:30:24,395 –> 00:30:25,715
What do I really want?

735
00:30:25,826 –> 00:30:26,446
Yes.

736
00:30:26,535 –> 00:30:28,785
So we’re giving that for everyone free.

737
00:30:28,846 –> 00:30:31,135
You can take it, you can listen
to it, you can do it, you can

738
00:30:31,135 –> 00:30:33,525
do woo-hoo, spiritual touchdown.

739
00:30:33,615 –> 00:30:33,645
Yes.

740
00:30:33,645 –> 00:30:34,556
Put your arms up.

741
00:30:35,065 –> 00:30:36,045
Want more.

742
00:30:36,045 –> 00:30:36,315
Want more.

743
00:30:36,315 –> 00:30:37,515
Ask better questions.

744
00:30:37,765 –> 00:30:41,595
And I think most of us have stopped
asking what we really want in life.

745
00:30:41,745 –> 00:30:42,206
Yeah.

746
00:30:42,325 –> 00:30:45,635
And maybe you’re just stuck in what,
not even searching for it anymore.

747
00:30:45,815 –> 00:30:49,845
So we’re giving you the invitation
to, if you want, explore more

748
00:30:49,845 –> 00:30:51,155
of this in your, in your life.

749
00:30:51,895 –> 00:30:52,245
Yes.

750
00:30:52,286 –> 00:30:56,076
And in- the meditation is about 20
minutes long, so you don’t- It’s guided.

751
00:30:56,126 –> 00:30:56,466
Yep.

752
00:30:56,525 –> 00:30:58,196
And you don’t need to
know anything to do it.

753
00:30:58,896 –> 00:31:01,846
To get the meditation, go to
alchemylearningcenter.com-

754
00:31:01,846 –> 00:31:01,876
.com … slash want.

755
00:31:01,876 –> 00:31:01,916
Back slash or slash?

756
00:31:01,916 –> 00:31:01,936
Back slash.

757
00:31:01,936 –> 00:31:02,006
do they call it back slash?

758
00:31:02,006 –> 00:31:02,016
Want.

759
00:31:02,016 –> 00:31:02,066
I don’t… I think so.

760
00:31:02,066 –> 00:31:02,126
It sounds less violent than slash.

761
00:31:02,126 –> 00:31:02,166
Yeah, back slash want.

762
00:31:02,166 –> 00:31:02,176
W-A-N-T.

763
00:31:02,176 –> 00:31:06,815
So Alchemy Center,
alchemylearningcenter.com/want.

764
00:31:20,085 –> 00:31:20,565
Wow.

765
00:31:20,705 –> 00:31:26,186
And if, you do it, if you do the
meditation and you find at first nothing

766
00:31:26,195 –> 00:31:27,856
happens, you’re not- Do it a couple times.

767
00:31:27,906 –> 00:31:28,306
Yep.

768
00:31:28,306 –> 00:31:31,675
Just sit there and-
There’s no pass or fail.

769
00:31:31,725 –> 00:31:32,255
Yeah.

770
00:31:32,255 –> 00:31:33,666
You just- You just keep going.

771
00:31:33,695 –> 00:31:34,035
Yeah.

772
00:31:34,045 –> 00:31:36,906
You want the answer to arrive,
and sometimes it takes some

773
00:31:36,906 –> 00:31:38,466
time, so do it a few times.

774
00:31:38,975 –> 00:31:41,376
And even when nothing
comes, that’s information.

775
00:31:41,376 –> 00:31:45,086
That’s exactly what we’re talking
about, just slowing down, sitting.

776
00:31:45,585 –> 00:31:45,835
Yeah.

777
00:31:45,995 –> 00:31:50,226
This week is about slowing down,
saying, “Hey, is there more to life

778
00:31:50,226 –> 00:31:52,440
than this?” What do I really want?

779
00:31:52,750 –> 00:31:53,120
Yeah.

780
00:31:53,360 –> 00:31:53,740
Right?

781
00:31:53,800 –> 00:31:56,500
You actually have to get quiet
and slow down to get the answer.

782
00:31:56,500 –> 00:31:56,649
Right.

783
00:31:56,649 –> 00:32:00,136
You might not have to go to
a cave, but- Yes, but kind of

784
00:32:00,136 –> 00:32:01,270
like a- Think about that image

785
00:32:01,320 –> 00:32:02,830
yeah, like a little mini retreat.

786
00:32:02,909 –> 00:32:03,199
Right.

787
00:32:03,510 –> 00:32:03,879
Okay.

788
00:32:04,179 –> 00:32:09,439
And next week, pod 149, we’ll be
talking about what happens the second

789
00:32:09,480 –> 00:32:14,960
you do want something, because for
most people it doesn’t take long,

790
00:32:14,960 –> 00:32:18,760
like two seconds, and your mind
starts building the case against.

791
00:32:18,869 –> 00:32:19,719
“I can’t do it.

792
00:32:19,720 –> 00:32:20,659
I don’t have enough money.

793
00:32:20,659 –> 00:32:21,569
I don’t have enough time.

794
00:32:21,570 –> 00:32:24,709
I, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,
da, da,” fill in the blank, right?

795
00:32:24,709 –> 00:32:27,409
It’s constant, and most of
us aren’t even aware of it.

796
00:32:27,629 –> 00:32:29,989
So that’s why we don’t ask
for things as much anymore.

797
00:32:30,220 –> 00:32:33,419
Sometimes we just reach out and
take, or we don’t expect it or…

798
00:32:33,420 –> 00:32:37,709
But this is actually a path to
see what your heart really wants.

799
00:32:37,830 –> 00:32:41,080
And it’s really human nature, and there’s
a name for it in Chinese medicine.

800
00:32:41,379 –> 00:32:44,509
It’s called Rebellious Qi,
and it’s not a metaphor.

801
00:32:44,549 –> 00:32:46,490
It’s an actual physical thing.

802
00:32:46,639 –> 00:32:49,419
I really… I, can’t wait to talk
more about that, ’cause we talk a

803
00:32:49,419 –> 00:32:50,909
lot about that in our other podcast.

804
00:32:51,279 –> 00:32:55,599
We also have some, activities in
the learning center to address that.

805
00:32:55,609 –> 00:32:55,639
Yes.

806
00:32:55,719 –> 00:32:56,659
All kinds of stuff, right?

807
00:32:56,659 –> 00:32:58,770
It’s a v- it’s a real
thing, but it’s not…

808
00:32:58,789 –> 00:33:00,239
It’s something that you can work on.

809
00:33:00,249 –> 00:33:03,129
It’s like a muscle that you can
flex- Yes … that you can work on.

810
00:33:03,249 –> 00:33:03,479
Yes.

811
00:33:03,890 –> 00:33:08,119
And then we’re going to have another
episode that’s- Wow, you’re really

812
00:33:08,170 –> 00:33:09,219
jumping ahead here … tied into this.

813
00:33:09,219 –> 00:33:10,220
I’ll just tell you a little bit.

814
00:33:10,249 –> 00:33:15,200
In pod 150 we’re gonna get to a really
important topic, which is the Wu-Wei

815
00:33:15,200 –> 00:33:17,340
state that we’ve been talking about.

816
00:33:17,369 –> 00:33:20,789
But wait, stay in the present moment-
Yes … and stay with this podcast first.

817
00:33:20,789 –> 00:33:23,959
But then go and wait and
ahead, and it’s coming.

818
00:33:24,170 –> 00:33:26,119
But no, we’re building a
little anticipation here.

819
00:33:26,149 –> 00:33:29,780
But, Jaye, it’s pod 150, so- I
know … it’s a very important number.

820
00:33:29,780 –> 00:33:30,060
It’s big.

821
00:33:30,069 –> 00:33:33,819
So … All right, so stay with
us, you know, and check it

822
00:33:33,819 –> 00:33:36,230
out, those, upcoming podcasts.

823
00:33:36,619 –> 00:33:37,719
Any final thoughts, Jaye?

824
00:33:37,719 –> 00:33:38,739
Yeah, arms together

825
00:33:42,189 –> 00:33:42,209
up.

826
00:33:43,369 –> 00:33:43,539
Yay.

827
00:33:43,539 –> 00:33:44,067
Woo-hoo, spiritual touchdown.

828
00:33:44,067 –> 00:33:44,594
You scored- All right.

829
00:33:44,594 –> 00:33:45,121
Yay … for the win.

830
00:33:45,121 –> 00:33:45,384
Woo-hoo.

831
00:33:45,384 –> 00:33:45,516
Bye.

832
00:33:45,516 –> 00:33:45,780
All right.

833
00:33:45,780 –> 00:33:46,770
So stay curious.

834
00:33:47,299 –> 00:33:49,499
You’ve been listening to the
Inspired Action Alchemy podcast,

835
00:33:50,299 –> 00:33:51,079
and you’ve reached the end.

836
00:33:51,479 –> 00:33:52,109
Woo-hoo.

837
00:33:52,109 –> 00:33:53,100
Woo-hoo.

838
00:33:53,100 –> 00:33:55,870
Why not celebrate a little bit
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839
00:33:56,170 –> 00:33:57,679
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840
00:33:57,959 –> 00:34:01,060
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841
00:34:01,299 –> 00:34:04,389
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842
00:34:04,390 –> 00:34:06,589
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843
00:34:06,830 –> 00:34:11,600
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844
00:34:12,110 –> 00:34:15,109
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845
00:34:15,110 –> 00:34:20,899
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846
00:34:20,899 –> 00:34:23,409
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847
00:34:24,190 –> 00:34:27,619
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848
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849
00:34:30,319 –> 00:34:35,520
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850
00:34:35,789 –> 00:34:38,780
Yes, thank you for listening, and
remember to hug the dog, and, you know,

851
00:34:38,829 –> 00:34:42,109
give yourself a hug, too, because you
both probably deserve a really nice hug.

852
00:34:43,277 –> 00:34:44,857
Yourself Yes, hug yourself.

853
00:34:45,467 –> 00:34:47,308
Go ahead, hug your– see,
that seems funny, right?

854
00:34:47,457 –> 00:34:49,267
Just wrap your arms around,
give a little wiggle.

855
00:34:49,308 –> 00:34:49,828
It’s easy.